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#1 - WOMAN HATERS (1934)

Postby Lunkhead on June 6th, 2005, 9:10 pm

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After joining the Woman Haters club with pals Moe and Curley, Larry breaks his vow of swearing off women when he marries a cute, little blonde. This causes problems for all involved when Moe and Curley end up on the same train with the honeymoon-bound couple.

An interesting debut for the boys. This was never one of my favorites, but has been growing on me. The entire short being done in rhyme always seemed annoying, but I look past that now. It's neat seeing this early version of the trio before they start to really develop their roles. The song "My Life, My Love, My All" has also grown on me and having Larry in the forefront is a rare treat.

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What stands out for me in this short is Curly's "Jackie" character. It is much more domineering than his future Curly character would be. I also found the rhyming dialogue a bit annoying upon earlier viewings of the short , but I do get a laugh or two out of it. I also believe that the lead actress, Majorie White (?), died in a car accident not long after fliming was completed.

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i was surprised at the verse in this one the first time i saw it, didn't know it was THE first short. but i quite enjoy it a lot, and find the Irish-Jewish coupling quite humerous now.
are we gonna do these in order? how long is 190 weeks? nearly four years! woo woo woo!
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What stands out for me in this short is Curly's "Jackie" character. It is much more domineering than his future Curly character would be.
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Yes. Very interesting to see Curly this way. Way different.

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I also believe that the lead actress, Majorie White (?), died in a car accident not long after fliming was completed.
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That's true SF65, and so sad. She sure was a cute little gal.

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That's the plan Megs. Might help keep the board goin for the next 4 years.

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The all singing stuff is unusual for Stooge fare, but it still has it's moments. I agree with the point made about Curly being a little more....uh....surly. A decent start though...
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Considering the script wasn't written with the Stooges in mind, but as part of a series of short musicals by Columbia, this is still a very fine debut for the boys, now freed of their subordination to Ted Healy. It's still quite close to the vaudeville format in which the boys had been working previously. One thing that always gets me in these earlier shorts is how incredibly fast & furious the pokes and slaps come - they'd slow them down and use them for punctuating a gag later on, instead of allowing them to be mayhem on their own account. In effect, the slaps and pokes became a way of prolonging a gag (much in the same way Stan Laurel used Babe Hardy's facial reactions to add to the payoff of a particular gag). Here, they're still in the knockabout vaudevillian style common to "stooges" in that medium, noticeable especially in their first scene where they charge into the Woman Haters club, and in the upper-berth scene.

I've always liked the musical format of this short, although given that the Stooges could (and did) sing in some of their earlier MGM pieces (albeit incompletely), it's strange they weren't given any musical numbers to sing in three-part harmony. Had the Stoogian format been more fixed, no doubt the writers would've added in such an opportunity. Likewise, the lack of an established Stooge formula allowed them to play separate characters only loosely affiliated w/each other. Later variations in the established formula, in the 50s, permitted a certain degree of dramatic irony, in that the viewer by that time knows the exact relationships of Stooge to Stooge.

Hey, any film where Walter Brennan gets eyepoked by the Master himself deserves some praise.

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Firstly, I have to say that I'm surprised the above picture of the Stooges looking down on Marjorie in the bath tub was even used as a publicity shot (Is that even a bath tub? I know tubs used to be quite short, and she does look to be naked except for the shoe-- lucky guys!). Wasn't it a bit risque for the time, and couldn't it give one an incorrect impression of the boys?

Anyway, I think I remember liking this short from the beginning and wishing they did at least a few more shorts with music and rhyming dialogue. Think how different this was from anything they did in the Ted Healy film years! I don't know if they had any such acts in Vaudeville, but if so, they had to adapt to it all over again for this short. It was like they were old pros at it too!

Bud Jamison was great in this and the short wouldn't have been the same without him.

"Gentleman, relax! I said, relax! Now please, at ease! Relax! Relax! I didn't tell you to break your backs!"


I also like his exchange with the guy at the door:

Man: Three men wait without.

Bud: Without what?

Marjorie really was a little hottie and Iwish she could've been in more shorts. Her singing was good, as was the Stooges. She was a great comedy actress. RIP

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whew!

Postby Xenorama on June 9th, 2005, 1:15 pm

i'm glad all these didn't get lost!

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Re: whew!

Postby Lunkhead on June 9th, 2005, 5:35 pm

Yes. I think the only one that's still missing is THREE LITTLE BEERS, plus some of the later posts by folks like Bruckman. EZ says they're still restoring, so there may still be some hope for the old Xenorama. I agree that since Xeno was gold most of the time, it should count for something. Maybe we'll still see it return.
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Postby RedKing on February 10th, 2006, 9:03 am

Not one of my favorites, but as youse guys said, it is interesting to see the boys in different roles. If Dr Suess wrote a Stooges short it would probably be something like this, only more twisted.
Moe: "What are you-an idiot, an imbecile, a moron?"
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Postby Wilytank on September 8th, 2006, 8:21 pm

Not that much violence. A 5 out of 10.

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Woman Haters Naughty Pictures

Postby erniebilko on September 11th, 2006, 7:26 pm

The bathtub photo is from a series of pictures taken for Film Fun Magazine (I think it's the October 1934 issue). I used to have it, but sold it on eBay long ago.

Especially in Pre Code Hollywood, Film Fun was as close to Playboy as you were going to get on newstands in 1934. Many leggy & bosomy shots, as extreme as would be allowed. The other photos include Marjorie losing her clothing to the Stooges in a dice game, and being pursued by all three in a bizarre shot where they are dressed in polo outfits and she's dressed in a very tiny negligee.

I once had a party that happened to fall on Marjorie White's birthday, so I showed Woman Haters and Diplomaniacs, her film with Wheeler and Woolsey. For all that hard-core Stooge fans tend to dislike the film, it got HUGE laughs that night. Although the fact that I was serving Marjorie White Russians didn't hurt -- Kaluha, cream and 100 proof vodka. Like her, it's small but packs a wallop.
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Postby Lunkhead on September 11th, 2006, 11:17 pm

Thanks for that information erniebilko, and welcome to the board. It is a shame Marjorie White died so young. She was very cute and talented. Interesting to think what she might have contributed if things had been different.
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#1 - WOMAN HATERS (1934)

Postby Xenorama on February 22nd, 2008, 3:52 am

just watching this now, from the new set, and it's amazing to see. i can only think the rest of them will be as enjoyable now.

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Re: #1 - WOMAN HATERS (1934)

Postby bustoff on August 15th, 2009, 12:13 am

I couldn't stand this one as a kid. I now enjoy it like almost every other short.
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Re: #1 - WOMAN HATERS (1934)

Postby moe-jo on August 18th, 2009, 6:28 pm

i saw this short and absolutely loved it.
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